VEG VS NON VEG: JUSTIFY

VEG VS NON-VEG ? JUSTIFYYYY WHTS UR CHOICE


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THATS WHY DISEASES LIKE SWINE FLUE,BIRD FLU KEEP ENTERING TO INDIA FROM EUROPE AND DUE TO EXCESSIVE NON VEG EATING WHY THERE IS NOT EVEN A SINGLE INSTANCE OF ANY SUCH DISEASE THAT ORIGINATE FROM INDIA THATS DUE TO INDIAN CULTURE AND IF U CANT RESPECT UR CULTURE THAN ITS PITY FOR INDIA THAT OUR YOUNG GENERATION IS MOVING TOWARDS THAT WAY WHERE THERE IS ONLY SINGLE WAY NO U TURN

Look, you've essentially being using this thread to spread a sort of vegetarian propaganda which I'm a little uncomfortable with. It's almost as through you were a missionary out to convert the world to vegetarianism with a constant barrage of one-sided research reports and some blatantly false statements.

Let's address the points you've raised (and I wish I had the time to give a more detailed reply, but I'll do my best). You have quoted several reports of varying vintage to try and substantiate that vegetarianism is a superior diet. The thing with research is that it can be manipulated to give the result that the researcher wants. There are just as many reports that would directly contradict those that you have quoted, and I'm sure you know this too. Every generic illustration of a 'balanced diet' includes both vegetarian and non-vegetarian items, which individuals can choose as per their preference.

Secondly, you make a completely flawed statement in the quoted post of yours that Swine Flu and Bird Flu have come to India because of non-vegetarian diets. Both these diseases are airborne (why do you think the advisories talk about covering your face and washing your hands) and have absolutely nothing to do with diet. They have been named so because the virus is normally found in birds/pigs - however the transmission to humans is due to a mutation carried through the air. If you remember, around 4-5 years ago when the Bird Flu scare had spread around the world, it was very clearly mentioned in all the advisories that properly cooked chicken was safe for eating.

You've made some more rather far-fetched statements (like the one about non-vegetarians shifting to cannibalism) which have no foundation in fact or research.

Personally, I don't mind if more people turn vegetarian. It's their choice. It's quite possible that it is a healthier choice (just as it's quite possible that it is not). The point is, it is NOT a moral diktat.
 
ist of all i am not doing any marketing for veg-food u shuld knw that we r living in a democratic country and everyone have right to express its feelings,coming to ur 2nd point that dere r any theories against the use of veg-food if they exist then pls do copy and paste dere in this disccussion forum (shud be based on some recent research),actuaaly reality is this that nwadays every well renowed organisations like WHO favouring veg food for the survival of the earth and for sustainable development and lastly as u said that i made flawed statemnt about bird flu and swine here is the proof that u definately calm u volatile misconceptions
Animal-to-human disease transmissions

The consumption of meat can cause a transmission of a number of diseases from animals to humans.[100] The connection between infected animal and human illness is well established in the case of salmonella; an estimated one-third to one-half of all chicken meat marketed in the United States is contaminated with salmonella.[100] Only recently, however, have scientists begun to suspect that there is a similar connection between animal meat and human cancer, birth defects, mutations, and many other diseases in humans.[100][101][102][103][104][105][106] In 1975, one study found 75 percent of supermarket samples of cow's milk, and 75 percent of egg samples to contain the leukemia (cancer) virus.[101] By 1985, nearly 100 percent of the eggs tested, or the hens they came from, had the cancer virus.[100][101] The rate of disease among chickens is so high that the Department of Labor has ranked the poultry industry as one of the most hazardous occupations - not for the chickens but for those who raise, slaughter and process them.[100] 20 percent of all cows are afflicted with a variety of cancer known as bovine leukemia virus (BLV).[100] Studies have increasingly linked BLV with HTLV-1, the first human retrovirus discovered to cause cancer.[100] Scientists have successfully infected human cells with a bovine immunodeficiency virus (BIV), the equivalent of the AIDS virus in cows.[100] It is supposed that BIV may have a role in the development of a number of malignant or slow viruses in humans.[100][clarification needed]

The proximity of animals in industrial-scale animal farming leads to an increased rate of disease transmission. Transition of animal influenza viruses to humans has been documented, but illness from such cases is rare compared to that caused by the now common human-adapted older influenza viruses,[107] transferred from animals to humans in the more distant past.[108][109][110][111] The first documented case was in 1959, and in 1998, 18 new human cases of H5N1 influenza were diagnosed, in which six people died. In 1997 more cases of H5N1 avian influenza were found in chickens in Hong Kong.[107]

Whether tuberculosis originated in cattle and was then transferred to humans, or diverged from a common ancestor infecting a different species, is currently unclear.[112] The strongest evidence for a domestic-animal origin exists for measles and pertussis, although the data do not exclude a non-domestic origin.[113]

According to the 'Hunter Theory', the "simplest and most plausible explanation for the cross-species transmission" the AIDS virus was transmitted from a chimpanzee to a human when a bushmeat hunter was bitten or cut while hunting or butchering an animal.[114]

Historian Norman Cantor, in In the Wake of the Plague: The Black Death and the World It made (2001), suggests the Black Death might have been a combination of pandemics including a form of anthrax, a cattle murrain. He cites many forms of evidence including the fact that meat from infected cattle was known to have been sold in many rural English areas prior to the onset of the plague.



Childhood IQ and diet choice

A study published in the British Medical Journal in 2007 compared children's IQ at age 10 with their having a vegetarian diet at age 30. The report did not provide information on whether or not the children were already vegetarian at the time when their IQ measurement was taken. It also noted that there was no difference in IQ among those vegetarians who ate only plants, and those who also ate chicken and fish.[119] The BBC summarised part of the results of the study, stating "Men who were vegetarian had an IQ score of 106, compared with 101 for non-vegetarians; while female vegetarians averaged 104, compared with 99 for non-vegetarians."[120] The report concluded that “Higher scores for IQ in childhood are associated with an increased likelihood of being a vegetarian as an adult.”[119] Lead researcher Catharine Gale noted that this link may not be causal, but “may be merely an example of many other lifestyle preferences that might be expected to vary with intelligence.”[120]
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT CAN HAPPPEN SO BE VEGETARIAN VEG ROCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I AGREE WITH SHREY420 NOW
 
Health benefits of a vegetarian diet
A well-balanced vegetarian diet can provide many health benefits, such as a reduced risk of chronic diseases, including:
Obesity
Coronary artery disease
Hypertension (high blood pressure)
Diabetes
Some types of cancer.
Vegetarians also have lower rates of illness and death from a number of degenerative diseases.

Meeting nutritional needs
If you choose to be vegetarian you need to plan your diet to make sure it includes all the essential nutrients. The wider the variety of foods you eat, the easier it will be to meet your nutritional requirements. Some essential dietary requirements, which could be missing from a vegetarian diet if it isn’t carefully planned, include:
Protein
Minerals (including iron, calcium and zinc)
Vitamin B12
Vitamin D.
vegetarian diet is better than non veg diet in every way as there is no need of killing a living being
 
On moral grounds, it is heartless of us to kill other organisms for the sake of our taste buds. Imagine another species comes to earth in the future.. that is superior to humans.. and they start killing and eating us.. Imagine losing your family members for someone's taste buds.. That's exactly what we do to animals!
 
WELL SAID GUNEET I AM TOTALY AGREE WITH U AND YES DERE WOULD BE POSSSIBILITY SOME SUPERIOR RACE THEN HOMOSAPIENS MAY EVOLVE ON EARTH AS WE KNW EVOLUTION AND MUTATION NOT A NEW THING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY KILL US AND EAT US AS IT IS SAID BY THE CHARLES DARWIN IN HIS BOOK "SURVIVAL FOR FITTEST"
THATS WHY BE "VEG TARIAN AND BE HUMANITARIAN "
 
Re: VEG VS NON VEG: JUSTIFYY;;;;;:::::::::::

Yes vegetarian is good for health but at the same time certain acids and vitamins present in fish are extremely useful in preventing skin cancer and other skin diseases.

Vegetables provide vitamins, such as vitamins A and C, and foliate, and minerals, such as iron and magnesium. They are naturally low in fat and also provide fiber.

People become vegetarians for lots of reasons. Some do it because they love animals or are worried about the environment. Some people think it�s a healthier way to eat. Some just don�t like the taste of meat, chicken or fish.
 
ist of all i am not doing any marketing for veg-food u shuld knw that we r living in a democratic country and everyone have right to express its feelings

Thanks. I was beginning to wonder.

By the way, if a race of 'superior intelligence' did invade the earth and start eating humans, how would our being vegetarian make a difference to their developing a taste for us?
 
its justified tat killing a living creature and consuming is not fair but taste is also a part of life . once in a while we can go for non veg but we should not cosume it constantly as some living creature is being slaughtered for our need
 
Life is full of choice and it's up to us to decide what is good for us.

Was going through an article and found it a bit funny
Which Diet is better - Vegetarian or Non-Vegetarian?
First of all, there are 5 different types of vegetarians.
Those who don't eat meat of some animals (eg., Beef or meat of rabbit etc.) or some organs (eg. Brain)
Those who eat only fish and dairy products
Those who don't eat meat or fish but will eat eggs and drink milk. These are the most common type of vegetarians.
Those who do not eat meat or any animal product.
There are a few who do not eat anything but fruits.

The type 1 cannot be a vegetarian

Advantages of vegetarian foods are:
They are easily chewable, especially for the elderly who have lost their teeth.
Many elderly feel that vegetarian food is more easily digestible.
Vegetarian foods are cheaper than non-vegetarian foods.
Some vegetables can be eaten raw preventing the loss of nutrients while cooking.
Vegetarian foods do not contain as much fat as non-vegetarian foods.
Vegetarians should take care to include soyabeans, groundnuts, lentils, mushrooms and so on to get a sufficient supply of proteins.

Advantages of Non-Vegetarian foods are:
Non-vegetarian foods are rich in protein of high biological value and in Vit B complex, especially B12 which is not available in plant foods.
Fish, especially the small varieties are a rich source of calcium.
Egg-white is good source of protein and easily digested.
The incidence of high BP, Heart disease, Obesity and high cholesterol levels is found to be greater among non-vegetarians. Elders who suffer from these problems should reduce the intake of fleshy foods in their diet. Egg-white and most varieties of fish contain less fat, but are rich in protein, vitamins and minerals.

Vegetarian or non-vegetarian, the decision depends on various factors such as cultural or dietary habits of the family, personal preference, taste and avoidance of certain foods for health reasons. Whatever the case, a well-balanced diet supplying proteins, fats, carbohydrates, vitamins and minerals should be taken.
 
Thanks. I was beginning to wonder.

By the way, if a race of 'superior intelligence' did invade the earth and start eating humans, how would our being vegetarian make a difference to their developing a taste for us?

i appreciatiate ur jesture of thanking me so u turning to veg finally ghosh............. my efforts finally giving fruits
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I THINK AS HUMANS WE SHALL BE VEGETARIAN FOR SAKE OF HUMANITY AND AS ANIMALS IT DOESN'T MATTER.
ALTHOUGH NON VEGETARIANS ARE ALSO A PART OF NATURE AND LIFE CYCLE.
THEY ALSO BREED ANIMALS WHICH BENEFITS THE ANIMALS.
THERE IS NEED TO PUT CONTROL ON THE ANIMALS BEING KILLED.


"IT IS BETTER TO BE VEGETARIAN FOR SEVERAL GOOD REASONS BUT IT IS BEST TO SECURE MUTUAL BENEFITS AND PEACE."

FOR AGES IN THE HISTORY OF EARTH THERE HAS BEEN ONE SPECIES FEED ON THE OTHER FOR THEIR OWN SURVIVAL HUS MAINTAINING THE BALANCE OF NATURE.


ITS NOT ABOUT THE HATE OF VEG OR NON.VEG ITS ABOUT ALL OF US....OF COURSE THERE HAS TO BE DISAGREEMENTS ON EITHER SIDES BUT THE TRUTH DOES AND SHALL BE THE LAST TO STAND...............LOL
 
And as Human's we could be either a vegetarian or non- vegetarian.

The Question of consuming meat and non-vegetarian foods has been object if much criticism since past several centuries. Even today though quite a large number of Hindus along with Muslims and Christians consume meat, there are large numbers of people who prefer to be strictly vegetarian throughout their life. For some it is a religious injunction to abstain from non-vegetarian food. Whereas some make it a political issue saying “Garv se kaho hum shakahari hain! .Those who insist on being pure vegetarian, feel that it is ruthless to kill the animals for feeding ourselves.

If I prove that mango is a better fruit than the apple, it does not mean that apple is prohibited for a human being.

In my next post lets try to identify different type of vegetarians...
 
DEFINITION OF 'VEGETARIAN'
(a) The word 'Vegetarian' does not come from the word vegetable but from the Greek word "Vegetas" which means 'Full of the Breath of Life'. It also means 'whole, sound, fresh, lively'. On the basis of this root word alone, many food from animals' flesh can also be included.

(b) Definition according to the Oxford Dictionary: The common understanding of the word 'Vegetarian' is defined in the Oxford Dictionary as a person who abstains from animal food.

CLASSIFICATION OF VEGETARIANS
Depending upon the type of food included in the diet, vegetarian diets can be classified broadly into three categories:

(a) Pure Vegetarian or 100 % Vegetarian: This diet does not include animal flesh or animal products.

They may be further classified into two types:

I. Fructarian : This diet is confined to fruits, nuts and certain vegetables, where harvesting allows the parent plant to flourish.
II. Vegan : This diet excludes the consumption of all foods of animal origin.


(b) Vegetarian diets which include certain animal products: Most of the vegetarians in the world including in India falls in this category. This maybe further classified into:-

I. Lacto-Vegetarian: This diet includes milk and dairy foods, but no animal flesh or egg.
II. Ovo-Vegetarian: Diets that include eggs but no milk, dairy food, or animal flesh.
Ill. Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarian: Diets that include milk, dairy foods, and egg but no animal flesh.

(c) Vegetarians who have certain animal flesh:

I. pesco-Vegetarian: Diet which includes milk, dairy products, egg and fish but no other animal flesh.
II. Semi-Vegetarian: (also known as Demi-vegetarian / Quasi-Vegetarian): Diet includes milk, dairy products, eggs, fish and chicken but no other animal flesh.
 
Damn man its so difficult to even recognize them and its so easy to identify and define a non-vegetarian

Definition Of Non-Vegetarian:
Non-Vegetarian is a person who has food of animal origin. It does not mean a person who does not have vegetable or fruit.

Definition Of Omnivorous
A more appropriate and scientific terminology would be omnivorous, which means a person who has many kinds of food, especially of plant and animal origin.
 
Dr. William T. Jarvi's Classification of a Vegetarian:

Dr. William T. Jarvis is the advisor to the American council on Science and Health
(ACSH).He is a professor of public health and preventive medicine at Loma Linda University, and the Founder and President of National Council Against Health Fraud. He is also the Co-editor of "The Health Robbers: A Close look at Quackery in America."

Dr. William T. Jarvis categorises vegetarians into two categories based on their behavioral standpoint: -
Pragmatic vegetarians and Ideological Vegetarians.
(a) Pragmatic Vegetarian
A pragmatic vegetarian is one whose dietary behavior stems from objective health consideration. He is rational rather than an emotional in his approach.

(b) Ideological Vegetarianism
An Ideological Vegetarian is one whose dietary behavior is a matter of principle based on an ideology. He is more emotional than rational.

According to Dr. William T. Jarvis: "One can spot ideological vegetarian by the exaggeration of the benefits of the vegetarianism, their lack of skepticism, and their failure to recognize (or their glossing over of) the potential risks even of extreme vegetarian diets. Ideologic Vegetarian makes a pretense of being scientific, but they approach the subject of vegetarianism more like lawyers than scientists. Promoters of vegetarianism gather data selectively and gear their arguments toward discrediting information that is contrary to their dogma. This approach to defending a position is suitable for a debate, but it cannot engender scientific understanding."

Dr. William T. Jarvis further states "Vegetarianism is riddled with delusional thinking from which even scientists and medical professionals are not immune".
 
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