Does God exist or is he a man-made creation?

As a Hindu, my concern is primarily on the existence of Gods, in pluralistic analysis. There is no poitn discussing on the existence of Yahweh, the Judeo Christian 'God' when we remain in the dark about our own!!

As far as the existence of divinity goes (that's what I think is valid in this case, for the discussion) I am a neutral. There is no empirical evidence of the existence of divinity, so I am more or less an agnostic. There is strong historical evidence about Yeshua and Yahweh being complete man-made creations btw... same cannot be said about Hindu divinity since there aren't any defined authors (whoever created Vishnu or Shiva?!) or fiction-writers such as Mark/Luke/John etc who literally created Yeshua for Christians.

Personally, I find the Gita (yes, I may seem biased) the most compelling historical piece of philosophy ever written by man, something that compares to the Rights of Man by Paine and even Categorical Imperative by Kant - only thing being Ved Vyas is hailed as a 'divine' poet. Whatever still makes sense today is worth discussing. Whatever that doesn't (aka the bible and monotheism) needs to be either revised or flushed down the toilet of history. Frankly speaking.
 
I often doubted with a question...

I believe in God. Its a supernatural Power of World. But, according to science, There are more galaxies in the universe. What's about that? Is there each god - different gods & powers?

We can't judge. There's a power. That's it.

I want to share an incident with you all that happens in my life before a few years.

My home is in a small lane where 2 homes are there next to my home. Opposite to my home, there is a home in north direction and some areas of the home is unbuilt and with grass.Their home and our lane are seperated by a small compound (i.e.) height of a 6th std studying person.

Coming to the event...

One day afternoon, i saw a small lizard without tail (It's tail is cut) in front at the edge of the compound in the side of my home.I just think of that it's the path everyone will have their walks - coming to their home & going outside. So, someone, may mistakenly, kill the lizard, while walking unnoticedly. So, i have taken a single stick of broomstick and take that lizard and put it on the other side of the compound. i.e - The grass area of our neighbour's home, where there is a small dig with some big stones covered at middle and end above and grassed spreadly at entire dig - that is used for the allowance of water as a result of washing their clothes as well as pouring the water after washing their hands in plates.

I throw the lizard in that dig - where at that time, i noticed, there is no water.

suddenly, i am shocked seeing the event happen there.

As i throw the lizard at that dig, suddenly an big insect. I don't know, it's name. In tamil, it's called ARANAI - having an orange color tail and lines on its entire body - came out from inside the stone in the dig - catches the lizard in its mouth , went back inside the stone.

What i can say.... I decided in my mind to save the lizard. But, it ends in such an end. I think of that minute - What's actually is the design of this god. Whether, he, thru me, helps that big insect to have the food - the lizard.

Say me anyone, what you think of this happening.

Is there god? Is it fate? or...............

God created the man at first. Who creates God?
 
perpectuals said:
I often doubted with a question...

I believe in God. Its a supernatural Power of World. But, according to science, There are more galaxies in the universe. What's about that? Is there each god - different gods & powers?

We can't judge. There's a power. That's it.

I want to share an incident with you all that happens in my life before a few years.

My home is in a small lane where 2 homes are there next to my home. Opposite to my home, there is a home in north direction and some areas of the home is unbuilt and with grass.Their home and our lane are seperated by a small compound (i.e.) height of a 6th std studying person.

Coming to the event...

One day afternoon, i saw a small lizard without tail (It's tail is cut) in front at the edge of the compound in the side of my home.I just think of that it's the path everyone will have their walks - coming to their home & going outside. So, someone, may mistakenly, kill the lizard, while walking unnoticedly. So, i have taken a single stick of broomstick and take that lizard and put it on the other side of the compound. i.e - The grass area of our neighbour's home, where there is a small dig with some big stones covered at middle and end above and grassed spreadly at entire dig - that is used for the allowance of water as a result of washing their clothes as well as pouring the water after washing their hands in plates.

I throw the lizard in that dig - where at that time, i noticed, there is no water.

suddenly, i am shocked seeing the event happen there.

As i throw the lizard at that dig, suddenly an big insect. I don't know, it's name. In tamil, it's called ARANAI - having an orange color tail and lines on its entire body - came out from inside the stone in the dig - catches the lizard in its mouth , went back inside the stone.

What i can say.... I decided in my mind to save the lizard. But, it ends in such an end. I think of that minute - What's actually is the design of this god. Whether, he, thru me, helps that big insect to have the food - the lizard.

Say me anyone, what you think of this happening.

Is there god? Is it fate? or...............

God created the man at first. Who creates God?
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Did you ever think of that fact the reason why human beings can reproduce, manage their own existence and even 'create intelligence' is because there never was or a need for divine intervention!

The reason why the food chain exists is for self-management. A self-correcting automated system of existence, I don't see God/s behind it, if he/she/they exist/s they have designed all of this to be self managing, not to be waiting around the corner for your little prayer or even listening to your thoughts. It's nonsense; a group of people in teh sky, listening to your every thought/speech and reacting to your every move...!

So, in the case you've mentioned, because the lizard is food for the insect means taht it proves there is no divine purpose at all!!! It's merely the food chain. Try throwing the most religious person you know in this planet to a hungry lion, he *will* get eaten anyway, irregardless of his belief in God. That proves it, since I am an agnostic, that God/s either do/es not exist or they simply don't bother with it at all, frankly, if I was one, I wouldn't too - it's a nasty job.
 
i dont think anybody can find out whether god exists or not........does man really think he/she can find out who god is, his/her sex, his/her home, etc. etc..............out IQs r so limited and deliberately so (by that 'GOD' thing), we just cannot find out the origin and all other secrets of this universe (god included)...........

got it..........

just forget this god business, all of u and get down to work,,,,,,,,,,,be good, do good, and die good........samjhe bacchon......

chalo bye, have lots to do.........
 
Even I do agree that THE MIGHTY GOD exists. But unfortunately not all humans have the capacity feel him/her. MAY LORD BLESS ALL HUMANS !
 
ya but obvious god exists...

its so simple ..... if ne1 wanna say ki god doesnt exists thn y in out india ther r so many temples so many other castes ppl also believe ......... every caster has ther own , such as mushjid for muslims , temple for hindus etc etc...... if god is nt here thn y do we go ther ?? y do ppl celebrate ganapatis ???
 
ha 1 more thing ........

if god is nt her thn who created all ths things , world , earth , animals........

man has nt yet inveted all ths things frm wher they came??
 
dear All, What i think GOD exists. If the Devil can exists GOD also exists. If GOD would not have been there then who would have created this beautiful Universe. May be some dont believe that HE doesnot exists & just the man made creation or belief......but there are so many incidents which has happened on this Earth & has force us to believe that GOD exists
 
There is a difference in terms of if god exists for and individual, and how it is defined in cultural terms.

Is the god that others see different to ones idea of god. The ontological debate.

Is religion a product of human culture, due to the human condition as humans having finite lives, and for socio-political reasons having a religion to organize around such as moral order in terms of what is defined as 'good' and 'bad' 'thou shalt not kill' etc (see: Ardent, Heidegger etc) or as 'truth'.

Or is god dead? As Nietzsche most misunderstood claim, denounces, in the gay sciences explains, "god is dead, and we have killed him" - meaning that since the 19th Century the influence of god on how people organize has declined.

People now organize around other institutional forms, businesses, markets, bureacracy etc...

How long will people even debate this?
 
i think that there are many ways to look at the subject but I think that there had to be some kind of external force that cause the "big bang".
 
kedar786 said:
ya but obvious god exists...

its so simple ..... if ne1 wanna say ki god doesnt exists thn y in out india ther r so many temples so many other castes ppl also believe ......... every caster has ther own , such as mushjid for muslims , temple for hindus etc etc...... if god is nt here thn y do we go ther ?? y do ppl celebrate ganapatis ???
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It's called anthropology and it's pretty common. God didn't make these temples, men did. In fact, if God/s exists - he has more or less forgotten about this place.
 
gautamsaraswat said:
dear All, What i think GOD exists. If the Devil can exists GOD also exists. If GOD would not have been there then who would have created this beautiful Universe. May be some dont believe that HE doesnot exists & just the man made creation or belief......but there are so many incidents which has happened on this Earth & has force us to believe that GOD exists
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There is no devil for hindus. We hindus do not have a 'perfect' evil. Everything has a balance - from Ravan to Asuras (Bali being a great example) there is no evil in Hinduism.

That said, I am the devil, so are you - depending on the time and circumstance.
 
i do agree that god exist but i dont believe that he is the creator of the world...this waold has come into existance because of evolution...we believe in him because since we are children our parents inculcate this in our heads...and probably coz of the fear of god we dont do the bad things..atleast not all of us....he definately makes the world a better place and makes his existance felt but he is not the creator...this is what i think
 
God exists otherwise all our decisoisn would have resulted in success the way we perceive them to culminate into access
 
I dont know if any of you have heard about Michael Tsarion.... an Irish alternative historian...
Personally, I believe in nature, now you can go with the question of "who created nature?" "can nature be created?".... and so other question...
The answer of everything relies on "faith on something"... and I do have faith on nature...
 
hi friends good evening as the title of the debate asks that it is man made or God really exists. in my view we neither deny nor accept if we deny that there is no god then who is the supreme power that regulaiting us when ever we realise that god nothing then some tjing happen happens and we force to belive that god exists but if we accept that there is god then none of us have seen god.our medical science totally deny the existance of god
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so in my view god is our faith, the person who has faith in god realise it but if a person does not belive in god he will never realise it.so god is our belive
 
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