The 7th installment is in the form of an extremely insightful interview.
An interview by Dr Philip Kotler
Companies failing to use the Internet are making a huge mistake" - Dr Philip Kotler (Industry Insider)
On a rainy Friday evening in Mumbai, a Merc carrying marketing legend Dr Philip Kotler and his eminent colleague at the Kellogg School of Management Dr Bala V Balachandran dodges the peak hour traffic from Santacruz to Colaba. Allwin Agnel occupies the third seat in the car and in an informal banter with the two gurus, takes in what the crystal ball has to show about New Age Marketing, Advertising, New Media and customer behaviour in the 21st century
Author of the 1967 classic 'Marketing Management', Dr Philip Kotler shares space with Bill Gates, Peter Drucker and Jack Welch as the world's most influential management thinkers. Currently the SC Johnson & Son Distinguished Professor of International Marketing at the JL Kellogg Graduate School of Management, Northwestern University, USA, Dr Kotler is a consultant on marketing strategy to companies such as Microsoft, IBM, General Electric, Ford, Apple, Motorola, AT&T, and Merrill Lynch.
Dr Bala V Balachandran is the JL Kellogg Distinguished Professor of Accounting and Information Systems at the JL Kellogg Graduate School of Management. He is also the Founder and Honorary Dean of the Great Lakes Institute of Management, Chennai.
The Interview
Allwin: Dr Kotler, what brings you to India?
Dr Kotler: Bala! (laughs) I love coming back to India, I’ve been here a lot and I think India is now at a tipping point where it is becoming a major force. It continues to grow in its influence and impact, starting of course with the BPO and outsourcing work. Many other things like medical tourism are going to take off and so on and so forth. I wanted to spend a week here and be in three cities, two of which I hadn’t been in before and Bala arranged a lot of programmes for meeting a lot of people who are interested in the Great Lakes Institute of Management and also from different companies. We met the CEOs of two of the biggest companies today, Wipro and Infosys.
Dr Bala: I tried to tell Phil that he should be in India. Phil was here in 1956 for nine months for a PhD in labour economics. That time he was in Mumbai, Delhi but never in Chennai and Bangalore. So I convinced him to come to Bangalore and Chennai this time.
Allwin: Dr Kotler, when you are looking at marketing in the 21st Century, what is it that you foresee in the future?
Dr Kotler: I think this is going to be a contrast between the companies that are trying to use the old marketing techniques and slowly declining as a result and companies that are practising new marketing techniques, spend less time in advertisement to the mass market and spend more time utilizing new technologies like mobile phones, Internet, blogs, podcasts and a whole bunch of other things that are now necessary to reach your message to the target audience. And also companies are going to focus more on choosing the niches and segments they are going to hold onto. Another big chance for companies is moving from transaction thinking to relationship thinking. But even that’s not enough, because smarter companies are going beyond relationship thinking to co-creation with the customer. When a company organizes a workshop for the customers to draw from it what they want, it is closely aligned to the idea of customization. Because we want to actually do more than sales, we want to delight customers and astonish them!
Allwin: How do think the Internet affects new age marketing and how will old marketers who don’t understand the concept of Internet, blogs, and various other techniques cope in the future?
Dr Kotler: We never thought that the Internet would become an advertising medium and in fact an early statement by the head of P&G said that CEOs would change and shift half of their money to the Internet if it weren’t an advertising media. What has happened of course, is it has become an advertising medium and a direct marketing tool and emails are a cheaper way to send messages to a lot of people if you have their names and it’s easy to get clicks measured. I think that any company that fails to prepare a good website for itself and utilize Google and Yahoo and the others to reach and influence target audience is making a huge mistake.
Allwin: When you talk about companies moving from the transaction model to the relationship model, how many companies do you see doing that or building it into their DNA so that they can sustain it?
Dr Kotler: I think that there is more talk than action and right now it’s not as much about relationship marketing as it is about becoming a customer centric organization. That is to say that you build from the outside in and build from the choice of the customer – whose needs you want to meet – to developing the engine for doing three things. Creating value, communicating value and delivering value. Letting the marketing department run the company is another way of putting the same thing. To let marketing department lead and put the CFO of the company under marketing is something that hasn’t really yet been done. So every company needing the two functions (needs) two leaders – Chief Revenue Officer – CRO and Chief Financial Officer – CFO and then you have a good bottom line.