gr8 karthik i m also of the same opinion y is it soooooooooooooo necessary to join classes.if ur basics r clear nd if join the test series ul surely get good mks i think ????????and afteral it all depends on ur self confidence ,determination nd dedication towards it.and lots nd lots of self discipline.
by the way karthik i jus wanna ask which sem u r in.and wat r ur future plans .??????
by the way karthik i jus wanna ask which sem u r in.and wat r ur future plans .??????
You dint read my interview lagta hai 
http://www.jammag.com/campus/index.php?section_id=9
I jus like to brag abt my interview to everyone these days. Dont mind
http://www.jammag.com/campus/index.php?section_id=9
I jus like to brag abt my interview to everyone these days. Dont mind
gaurav200x
Gaurav Mittal
i personally would favour coaching classes. I had joined TIME earlier and during the coaching, i came to know of a lot more on how to crack CAT, which i wouldn't have known otherwise. CAT requires definitive strategies, and hence i feel coaching centres are essential... However, the effort has to be put from ur side only.. and it can't be replaced by anything else!
Regards,
Gaurav
Regards,
Gaurav
Shrinjoy
New member
Coaching Class to the certain extent helps an individual or a so called "CAT Aspirant"...For me coaching classes work the same way as these forums do get hands on experience of other students..where we stand...how r we exposed to the current social political economic scenario compared to other students...Coaching Class would in a way help u to groom urself or prepare u better fr CAT n beyond like ur GDs ur PIs...some coaching classes even suggest the students wut to wear fr their PIs n stuff like tht...but CAT is jus not abt putting ur basics right...I know 100 teachers parents coaching classes will tell u abt "BASIC right hone se CAT clear hoga" but its 55% luck n 45% may b aptitude...if ur aptitude or outlook is good half the battle in won...This is where coaching classes can help u but LUCK is a factor which shud b on ur side on the D day...I hve seen ppl crying,howling in their centres...I have seen ppl studying 5 hrs a day gettin 98 %ile in their MOCK CATs but puttin a bad show in the Grand Finale...so equipp urself....wid all the blessings,luck u can get..It may help u eventually...
amardeep.rishi
Par 100 posts (V.I.P)
Well....it's both ways true...coaching classes r there to support and help in analysing the things at the time of confusion...as i did my coaching from CL south delhi lots of IIT students were there in batch so it was always a good fight in normal days too...as in class tests u came to know ur postion w.r.t(so called) one of the best brains in india..
It's encouraging and good exp......but for preparation u r the best person to motivate urself.Afterall u need to do write final exam.So test series could b answer of above but for preparation it's u and only Y O U!!
Lets prepare:yield:
It's encouraging and good exp......but for preparation u r the best person to motivate urself.Afterall u need to do write final exam.So test series could b answer of above but for preparation it's u and only Y O U!!
Lets prepare:yield:
gaurav200x
Gaurav Mittal
Well i rarely have joined coaching classes for anything till now, but i feel CAT is a different thing altogether. CAT needs strategy to work... u need to know how to win this game by being smart and that is pretty difficult to understand by self. i was going through the magazine which TIME gave us for August 2004 and they had written an article on 'How to crack CAT' explaining about the second-based methodology, time precision, problem solving, etc... and their explanation was damn scientific.. for it revealed how CAT paper is significantly different from university exam papers.. and needed very different appoach. i dun think this approach can be easily formulated by sitting at home...
besides, coaching classes have a fixed schedule and give u a class room environment, which make one study better on a fixed schedule basis...
besides, coaching classes have a fixed schedule and give u a class room environment, which make one study better on a fixed schedule basis...
its_kul
New member
hi G and all
i would just like to add that i come to know about many new concepts and all related to syllabus.but from forums like this i go unlimited help which i cant put in words.
so if we have good friends then we can crack cat by self study only.
and for boost we can join any test series.
i would just like to add that i come to know about many new concepts and all related to syllabus.but from forums like this i go unlimited help which i cant put in words.
so if we have good friends then we can crack cat by self study only.
and for boost we can join any test series.
gaurav200x
Gaurav Mittal
Well, when u r doing self studies, u are unaware of the competition that is existing in the country... Kul, its right, that group study helps... Infact, i would advocate, coaching classes - cum - group study, for max. results. Coaching classes, merely act as catalysts. People like me, are very lazy, and we need a medium, so that we can work properly and coaching classes help us in that, Eg. i know, i must work for 2 hours daily, but at time, i must feel lazy and try to procrastinate my work... But, if i have taken coaching classes, i know, i have paid the money and i need to take the full benefit and hence, i will not want to procrastinate it. I don't say, coaching classes are a must, but, they are very helpful...
and as for aptitude, i don't say they increase any aptitude, for it is the individual's calibre, which is actually responsible, however, they do help in increasing... There is a difference in increasing and help in increasing....
and as for aptitude, i don't say they increase any aptitude, for it is the individual's calibre, which is actually responsible, however, they do help in increasing... There is a difference in increasing and help in increasing....
george m.d.
New member
sheetal said:
yes, it is absolutely necessary
i feel coaching classes are necessary to learn from mistakes of others too...maybe we never concentrate on things which other ppl can...and we get chance to learn from their mistakes as well as gain quite a lot knowledge... i dont deny the fact tht finally its your effort which is going to fetch you good results but classes may help you kno where you stand among so many students... for example the SIMCAT's in IMS... i havent joined it but i feel its a nice concept... and obviously not to forget the tricks to solve problems quickly...
regards
-khushboo...
regards
-khushboo...
amardeep.rishi
Par 100 posts (V.I.P)
Well....it's nice to consider coaching classes as a good concept but it's not at all necessary.U can get the solution of ur problems by experts who r in the business thats true but today this concept is totally commercialized.Coaching centers r there to gain profits and thats the only motive.In the class of 50-60 students it's very tough to concentrate on every student...the idea should be making small batches..emphasis should be on quality than quantity.
Coaching classes can give u the feel of competetition to some extent(as test series r more imp and necessary) and can bring the regularity that sometime everyone finds difficult to achieve.Rest preparation should b ur own as CAT is about analyses.Smartwork is more required than hardwork.
It's better to contemplate on how should prepare rather who will help to prepare!!:argue:
Coaching classes can give u the feel of competetition to some extent(as test series r more imp and necessary) and can bring the regularity that sometime everyone finds difficult to achieve.Rest preparation should b ur own as CAT is about analyses.Smartwork is more required than hardwork.
It's better to contemplate on how should prepare rather who will help to prepare!!:argue:
Here goes a lil analysis ...
Assuming classes fees as 20k a year for CAT .
No of days in a year 365 .
No of days classes take place in a week 3 ( mostly its tts etc ) .
No of weeks in a month = 5 .
Lecture duration = 2 hrs.
Therefore Total time you study at classes = 30 hrs .
Monthly amount you pay to classes 20,000 / 12 = 1600 .
You pay 1600 for just 30 hrs of tutoring per month.
Yep, only 30 hrs .. full of bullshit, homework discussions, and time pass .
We havent even considered the time pass that is done before the classes start and days when they leave you early.
Someone said they give you "the" environment.
Someone said they show you ways and give you direction.
I remember CAT 2005, only 90 questions for 200 mrks. Their guidance of solving this section first and in this many minutes and how to time yourself.... and 1000 strategies and short cuts that we never use ... all down the drain.
Forget about everything.. leave all responsibilities... have one lakshya to Crack CAT for just 1-2 months and you will get into IIM's.
But if you looking for environment and strategies .. and someone else's motivation ... ( naah .. i wont complete the sentence.. you guyz keep wondering abt the climax )
All these classes and tutorials for CAT are new breed of politicians man... Believe yourself.. get hold of good material and yell... IIM .. im on my way
Assuming classes fees as 20k a year for CAT .
No of days in a year 365 .
No of days classes take place in a week 3 ( mostly its tts etc ) .
No of weeks in a month = 5 .
Lecture duration = 2 hrs.
Therefore Total time you study at classes = 30 hrs .
Monthly amount you pay to classes 20,000 / 12 = 1600 .
You pay 1600 for just 30 hrs of tutoring per month.
Yep, only 30 hrs .. full of bullshit, homework discussions, and time pass .
We havent even considered the time pass that is done before the classes start and days when they leave you early.
Someone said they give you "the" environment.
Someone said they show you ways and give you direction.
I remember CAT 2005, only 90 questions for 200 mrks. Their guidance of solving this section first and in this many minutes and how to time yourself.... and 1000 strategies and short cuts that we never use ... all down the drain.
Forget about everything.. leave all responsibilities... have one lakshya to Crack CAT for just 1-2 months and you will get into IIM's.
But if you looking for environment and strategies .. and someone else's motivation ... ( naah .. i wont complete the sentence.. you guyz keep wondering abt the climax )
All these classes and tutorials for CAT are new breed of politicians man... Believe yourself.. get hold of good material and yell... IIM .. im on my way
gaurav200x
Gaurav Mittal
Wah wah wah!! u should seriously think of becoming a motivational speaker!! kya speech di hai... But, dude! these views can't be generalised. as i said, it all depends on the individual to extract they can from the coaching classes. What's the difference between a coaching class and school? u pay fees at both places and have a class room environment. So, u would also say that classroom would be a total waste of time too and one shouldn't even go to the class rooms too... Nah! coaching centres can be a waste, but if u find the right coaching centre and use it productively, making sure that u extract for every penny worth of education, u can surely excel. Offcourse, it is ur hard work, that ultimately counts.... but they can surely act as catalysts! Regards, Gauravkartik said:Here goes a lil analysis ...
Assuming classes fees as 20k a year for CAT .
No of days in a year 365 .
No of days classes take place in a week 3 ( mostly its tts etc ) .
No of weeks in a month = 5 .
Lecture duration = 2 hrs.
Therefore Total time you study at classes = 30 hrs .
Monthly amount you pay to classes 20,000 / 12 = 1600 .
You pay 1600 for just 30 hrs of tutoring per month.
Yep, only 30 hrs .. full of bullshit, homework discussions, and time pass .
We havent even considered the time pass that is done before the classes start and days when they leave you early.
Someone said they give you "the" environment.
Someone said they show you ways and give you direction.
I remember CAT 2005, only 90 questions for 200 mrks. Their guidance of solving this section first and in this many minutes and how to time yourself.... and 1000 strategies and short cuts that we never use ... all down the drain.
Forget about everything.. leave all responsibilities... have one lakshya to Crack CAT for just 1-2 months and you will get into IIM's.
But if you looking for environment and strategies .. and someone else's motivation ... ( naah .. i wont complete the sentence.. you guyz keep wondering abt the climax )
All these classes and tutorials for CAT are new breed of politicians man... Believe yourself.. get hold of good material and yell... IIM .. im on my way
Man, thats school... You dont have a choice. Its not your call. And its become a religion now... you have to go to school.... college ...etc... else you are not normal.
But thats not the case with classes . And why do classes anyway ?? Why pay when you know you will have to recover every penny ??
You already know you can get the same things done without paying.
If you are saying paying 20k gives you the motivation to study.. Man pay me 4 lakhs.. you will get soo motivated.. you will reach in harvard
Seriously, think about it... WHY do people join classes ?? Just bcoz ur frnds did that doesnt mean you too have to..
I know some faculty of these coaching classes... they are themselves taking CAT all these years...trying to crack it...but evn after years.. they still in IMS and not IIMs..
Think out of the box
But thats not the case with classes . And why do classes anyway ?? Why pay when you know you will have to recover every penny ??
You already know you can get the same things done without paying.
If you are saying paying 20k gives you the motivation to study.. Man pay me 4 lakhs.. you will get soo motivated.. you will reach in harvard
Seriously, think about it... WHY do people join classes ?? Just bcoz ur frnds did that doesnt mean you too have to..
I know some faculty of these coaching classes... they are themselves taking CAT all these years...trying to crack it...but evn after years.. they still in IMS and not IIMs..
Think out of the box
gaurav200x
Gaurav Mittal
its not just about motivation.. its not about the money either, maybe not totally, but about the benefits one can reap. In my 1st post, i clearly, said that my point of view is wrt CAT only, because the exam's nature is very peculiar and needs a definite strategy. Good institutes like TIME or IMS give u lots of study material and u have an opportuinty to study in group, which u may or may not be able to form otherwise.
The reason why i compare it with classes is, that i want to show that a classroom environment is essential. One can obtain a certificate even through correspondence courses, but it is not the same. U do not come to know of the national competition or the new strategies that u can use. They equip u with good guidance and time-tested strategies so that u can use them when time comes.
u might have seen one or two, who might be useless, but i have also gone to TIME here and i found it worth the money and hence, i don't think they're a waste. One has to gather the harvest in order to enjoy. If u don't then, there is no point in taking them. So to say, that they can try to motivate, but u need to get motivated. No body can put it in ur system, but u.
Hope my point is clear...
The reason why i compare it with classes is, that i want to show that a classroom environment is essential. One can obtain a certificate even through correspondence courses, but it is not the same. U do not come to know of the national competition or the new strategies that u can use. They equip u with good guidance and time-tested strategies so that u can use them when time comes.
u might have seen one or two, who might be useless, but i have also gone to TIME here and i found it worth the money and hence, i don't think they're a waste. One has to gather the harvest in order to enjoy. If u don't then, there is no point in taking them. So to say, that they can try to motivate, but u need to get motivated. No body can put it in ur system, but u.
Hope my point is clear...